Inserting Reference 4 plugin in DAW (advanced)

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    Warwick Thorn (Edited )

    I'm trialing the headphone version. But where do i put it? "...the last plugin on your output." It didnt work there, in Studio One, when hardware (DSP) monitoring (blue z), or Native low latency software monitoring (green z) active, because in these cases effects in the Main out cannot be active (if plugin more than 3 ms latency. I did it this way, I made a track just for monitoring and put it in there. See attached. but am I missing something?

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    Warwick Thorn (Edited )

    Actually, after a restart it did work with the plugin in the output. Dont know why, I'm experimenting with the settings. Maybe somethign to do with Studio One not allowing plug-ins less than 3ms latency in the low-latency software monitoring path.

    https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002611926-Studio-One-3-5-Audio-Dropout-Protection-and-Low-Latency-Monitoring-FAQ

    Maybe in the first instance I had not selected the zero latency option at the bottom of the plugin.

    Interesting though, the way I have it in the pic, which works, because I dont need to worry about turnign it off when I savw a mixdown, because I am noit including my monitor track when I do that anyway.

     

     

     

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    Kārlis Stenders

    Hi Warwick, 

    Not sure what happened there either, but glad to hear it's up and running! 

    Please contact us with an individual support ticket if you're experiencing any further problems and we'll look into it in detail. 

    Thanks!

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    Isaiah Arellano

    When exporting audio stems on Mac, but the plugin is not on the DAW's master, it is being used on the tool bar and not as a plugin within the DAW, should sonarworks be turned off? is the correction being applied still? 

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    Mat Anderson

    I mix from my DAW into a summing mixer.  I have up to 16 stereo outputs from Logic going into the summing mixer.  I have a few outboard processors patched into the summing mixer (bus compression and eq).  To print the mix, I record the output of my summing mixer back into a new track in Logic.  Whereabouts in this chain should the plug in go? One instance on each of the stereo outputs going into my summing mixer?

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    Chris

    For best results, we would recommend inserting the calibration at the end of the signal chain right before monitoring outs so that it would not be affected by equalization or any other signal processing.

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    Nigel Wright

    Ok so I have been using SWR the full version for a couple of months. I use Reaper as my DAW. I understand that it must be the last plugin on the master channel. But if I also wish to use Youlean Loudness meter 2 (YLM2) to see the level when mixing etc the YLM2 is unable to give accurate loudness so then I have to turn off SWR. What is the point of that. So can someone tell me how this can be resolved?

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    Chris

    Hey Nigel, 

    That is a good question!
    Well, we would recommend puting the Youlean Loudness meter 2 plug-in immediately before the Reference 4 plug-in.

    The Monitoring FX feature might also prove useful in this case.

    This Reaper tutorial video is very helpful in explaining how to use it -
    http://reapertv.co.uk/reaper-how-to-use-monitoring-fx/

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    Marc Rauber

    If I am using a room simulation such as Waves Abbey Road Studios, where in the master chain do I need to set SWR? Before or after?

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    Chris

    Hey Marc,

    We would recommend putting the Reference 4 plug-in after the Abbey road studios plug-in as well.

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    Brayden Quesnelle

    I use FL studio and have tried applying this and still the output is changed on the master output of my mixes. With safe headroom enabled its quieter with it turned off and turned up to 0db it becomes louder than the mix. I was trying to gain match it myself but it was almost impossible. I also put an analyzer before the swp and the reading seemed close but still seemed to change a little and I didn't like that. I would imagine I could match input to output easily right?

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    Kārlis Stenders (Edited )

    Hi Brayden, 

     

    It looks like you never managed to apply this solution properly in FL. If the final output is still affected by turning the plugin on/off, this means that the parallel monitoring bus hasn't been routed correctly. 

     

    I would advise seeking help in an FL forum, or FL support - surely there has to be a way to route a separate monitoring bus in FL too, one that is not altering the master mixdown output track. 

     

    Additionally, check out this article on our Blog with more details on the same solution: How To Use SoundID Reference In Pro Tools, Logic, and Cubase

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